IDempiere/FullMeeting20140115

⇐ Table of Contents | Full Meeting Minutes | Full Meeting 2014-01-15

CarlosRuiz: Good Morning
tbayen: Daarestiet!
nmicoud: Bonjour
tbayen: I am annoyed that GenerateModel does not work from commandline and did IDEMPIERE-1686
alaragh: good morning
CarlosRuiz: yep - sounds like a good idea
CarlosRuiz: Hi alaragh
CarlosRuiz: nmicoud, I've been working on your list - is long :-)
nmicoud: :)
nmicoud: i've seen the status line and the quick info. that's great !
CarlosRuiz: yep - thanks for that
CarlosRuiz: after your patch for status line - implementing the quick info was very easy
CarlosRuiz: but it needs some refinement
nmicoud: i've showed it yesterday and people were very enthousiastic ; that give them lots of idea ;)
nmicoud: the 'Help' panel is really useful
CarlosRuiz: just need to be careful the queries are performance friendly
Deepak: CarlosRuiz I did not found i3.0 folder in migration
Deepak: Should I create it?
Deepak: We are ready with write-off charge patch
CarlosRuiz: no, please use i2.0z in development branch
Deepak: ohk, Thanks
red1: hi thomas tbayen i read you are quite active in the googlegroup
tbayen: Hi red1. :-) yes, I try.
Deepak: I have to leave, will commit write-off charge enhancement and inform tbayen and nmicoud for peer review
red1: bye Deepak
tbayen: bye
red1: tbayen: u did more than try!
red1: your words are beyond me now. I think your beer company should appear in the German IT portal news
Deepak: Appreciate tbayen's effort and hope red1's wish come true:)
tbayen: My idea is that I learn for myself with every question I answer. And I feel there is still very much to learn.
CarlosRuiz: did you see how active is the forum?
CarlosRuiz: http://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!aboutgroup/idempiere
CarlosRuiz: 388 posts in december! which is a holidays month - I'm amazed
tbayen: Haha! It is year end and everyone was afraid of the accounting consequences.
CarlosRuiz: november had 435 posts
red1: haha
CarlosRuiz: most active posters this month -> hieplq and tbayen - congratulations and thanks!
tbayen: I do not really care about the numbers. I would like to have the knowledge to post less but better content.
red1: Are you running for Chancellor?
CarlosRuiz: well - numbers are important to measure the growing - AFAIR TWD project had those numbers just when there were wars
hieplq: asker vs answer :)
red1: A humble attitude is politically correct.. it can unseat me
CarlosRuiz: and we're having those numbers with technical/functional content - good quality mostly
red1: nmicoud also contribute good stuff
red1: i like the dynamic status line config
tbayen: Perhaps we should begin a war to get even better???
CarlosRuiz: hahaha
nmicoud: merci ;)
CarlosRuiz: please somebody call red1 a nazi and we start from there
tbayen: :-)
red1: Yes, the only way to restore my fame
red1: from the bottom straight up past these European powers
red1: i think tbayen should join ADeV
red1: IIRC, he shoujld sign the declaration form
tbayen: You know I tried but they did not want me. :...-(
red1: and declare not to love iDempiere more
red1: you cannot be passionate
tbayen: Another theme for the meeting: Since IDEMPIERE-1285 (estimated landed cost for PO) the old Chart of Account files do no more work because there is a new default account. The US file seems to be updated but not the language specific. I did IDEMPIERE-1685 about that. What do we want to do with these language specific files?!?
CarlosRuiz: nmicoud, reevaluation IDEMPIERE-1461 - will test and if it still works I'll commit it
nmicoud: ok, thanks
CarlosRuiz: tbayen, IMHO the Accounting files must be treated like the translations files - must be out of core and maintained by somebody responsible
CarlosRuiz: having those files without a maintainer leads to these situations - people try to create a tenant with an unmaintained file and it fails
tbayen: I think this is a bit more urgent. If the trranslations are outdated it leads to some bad translated texts. If the coa files are outdated this leads to ne users not being able to install the program. We should either delete or repair them but not let them in an erroreous state.
nmicoud: another option would be to modify the initial client setup to allow creation of tenants even if an account is missing (program could create a temp account) ?
tbayen: I could create a new repository to keep the unmaintained and a wikipage to document it and show users the right way. The german coa files go into my translation repository.
CarlosRuiz: my vote to delete them and point to a wiki page for download
tbayen: ok. I will take care to prepare that.
tbayen: But I also like nmicoud s idea to be able to instantiate idempiere without a full coa (or totally without a coa file).
tbayen: If a new user wants to play around with the program this is always a step to take. Some default values could help here for newbies to feel more comfortable.
nmicoud: we can do both, no ?
tbayen: yes, absolutely!
nmicoud: it's been a long time since i've been in the code of InitialClientSetup, but i think it can be updated this way. WDYT ?
CarlosRuiz: nmicoud / tbayen - initially I thought is not good to create things in the back of the user
CarlosRuiz: but thinking maybe we can create a node on the tree called "non-configured default accounts" - create the account with value=defaultname and inactivate that account
CarlosRuiz: and hengsin added -> I think that can be an option in the initial client setup. not a default but an explicit checkbox that user have to select.
red1: sounds good
red1: hola angel aparra_dcs
tbayen: How about a "default coa file" that is included in the classpath and can be choosed with a checkbox in the initial client setup instead of the file chooser?
CarlosRuiz: tbayen, I think CoA is mostly not standardized
tbayen: Yes, it is. But I think this to let a newbie install the software as easy as possible.
tbayen: I would give the coa of the US file but only the default accounts.
CarlosRuiz: well - the proposed flag would enable to install without a CoA
DCSsaul: hi people
DCSsaul: i have a problem running parallel thread in idempiere
DCSsaul: I'm using AEnv.executeAsyncDesktopTask(this); but it locks window until the thread is to completed
CarlosRuiz: Hi Saúl
DCSsaul: Hi Carlos
CarlosRuiz: I haven't used that
DCSsaul: Well try "t = new Thread (this); t.Start ()", but neither worked
tbayen: When I create a new repository for the unmaintained repositories I would like to use a more mercurial-friendly file format instead of *.xls. Does anybody know if *.fods (OpenDocument Flat XML) can be read by Microsoft Excel?!?
tbayen: ...unmaintained coa files...
hieplq: hi tbayen, why not .csv file?
CarlosRuiz: yep - I think csv - the xls is for the template US having some comments on columns
tbayen: The now used directory contains both with the same data. Some of the *.xls files contain additional formatting informations that make it a bit easier to work on them (like comments on the headers or coloured columns for the balance accounts).
tbayen: I will look into the files and save them as fodt if I find something useful in them. The german ones do not contain useful formatting. There I can just delete the *.xls.
hieplq: Hi tbayen I see comment use only description about header. maybe make a file "header guide.csv" with a two line, first is header and second is description. other file keep in csv without conmment
nmicoud: hey guys, note that i've updated the email adress of SuperUser on demo.idempiere.com to superuser@idempiere.com (wanted to test the RequestEmailProcessor). And now, i can't set the 'old' email with the spaces as it is invalid :(
hieplq: Hi nmicoud, please refe: https://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1671
nmicoud: i know, my message is for inform people they won't be able to login
CarlosRuiz: you can use SQL Form for that
nmicoud: ah right ; will do this
CarlosRuiz: sorry I mean "SQL Process" as System
nmicoud: nope : SQL> update ad_user set email = superuser @ idempiere.com where ad_user_id = 100 ===> ERROR: Not Allowed Keyword UPDATE
CarlosRuiz: ah - just intended for ALTER
nmicoud: it seems
CarlosRuiz: done
nmicoud: thanks
nmicoud: about the REquestEmailProcessor, i've done some rapid test and notice that when the attachment got accent, the filename was like "=?UTF-8?Q?Analyse_dev_tol=C3=A9rance_montant_=C3=A9cart_de" ; is it windows related ? or is this something that need to be fixed ?
CarlosRuiz: sounds like a bug
nmicoud: ok, will open a jira ticket then
hieplq: hi guys. In class InfoProductWindow. line 634. Current, use log level for show info by warehouse or by storage. I think we should add a checkbox into button panell for this. WDYT?
CarlosRuiz: agree - user cannot change the log level
CarlosRuiz: not on server
CarlosRuiz: that's probably inherited from swing
hieplq: ok. i will create ticket for it
CarlosRuiz: thanks
CarlosRuiz: good catch!
CarlosRuiz: just noticed that "Invoice Not Realized Gain & Loss Report" is just working in english