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Full Meeting 2014-10-29


'''''CarlosRuiz''''': Good Morning 
'''''cool''''': ok let me try this 
'''''nmicoud''''': Bonjour 
'''''JanThielemann''''': hi 
'''''a42niem''''': hi all, back from hospital, getting up to normality again 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': Hi Dirk 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [iDempiere] CarlosRuiz_globalqss pushed 1 commit to development [+0/-0/±3] https://bitbucket.org/idempiere/idempiere/commits/ 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [iDempiere] jthielemann b758c94 - IDEMPIERE-2259 Add SysConfig keys to avoid using hardcoded values on login page 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [IDEMPIERE] carlosruiz_globalqss updated IDEMPIERE-2259 status set to "Resolved" -assignee set to "Jan Thielemann" -resolution set to "Fixed" 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-2259 
'''''ocurieles_DCS''''': Good Morning 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': Morning 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [iDempiere] CarlosRuiz_globalqss pushed 1 commit to development [+0/-0/±1] https://bitbucket.org/idempiere/idempiere/commits/ 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [iDempiere] globalqss 1ac024c - cleanup MSysConfig of unused keys - documenting missing entries in http://wiki.idempiere.org/en/System_Configurator_(Window_ID-50006) 
'''''allgood''''': good morning folks 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': Hi Claudemir 
'''''allgood''''': did you received my pull request? 
'''''allgood''''': very small bug-fix! 
'''''allgood''''': noted that you associated my name with my nick! :-D 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': all good :-) 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': about the import translated references? I have that pending to review 
'''''allgood''''': no... there is one simpler 
'''''allgood''''': the associated references the pull request is no good 
'''''allgood''''': isn't good 
'''''allgood''''': IDEMPIERE-2273 - pull request #92 
'''''allgood''''': CSV importer have a call to field.isMandatory() on the preprocess routie 
'''''allgood''''': routine 
'''''allgood''''': but field is the field of the current selected record on GUI... so, isMandatory() can't do it's job at that time 
'''''allgood''''': did you associated my nick with my last name (since it is similar in spanish) 
'''''allgood''''': ? 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': ah - Todo Bom :-) 
'''''allgood''''': yep... it really is my last name! 
'''''allgood''''': lot of jokes around here 
'''''allgood''''': and a lot of responsibility to keep up to it! 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': :D 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': you must be optimist all the time 
'''''allgood''''': I try to 
'''''nmicoud''''': Hi CarlosRuiz, do you think you will have time to review and integrate the following little tickets : 2279, 2275, 2271, 2260, 2089 ? 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': I'll try 
'''''nmicoud''''': thanks 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [iDempiere] CarlosRuiz_globalqss pushed 1 commit to development [+0/-0/±2] https://bitbucket.org/idempiere/idempiere/commits/ 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [iDempiere] globalqss 24fecc3 - IDEMPIERE-2278 Entity Types are not cached - but static array 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [IDEMPIERE] carlosruiz_globalqss updated IDEMPIERE-2278 status set to "Resolved" -assignee set to "Carlos Antonio Ruiz Gomez" -resolution set to "Fixed" 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-2278 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [IDEMPIERE] carlosruiz_globalqss updated IDEMPIERE-2279 status set to "Resolved" -assignee set to "Nicolas Micoud" -resolution set to "Fixed" 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-2279 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [iDempiere] CarlosRuiz_globalqss pushed 1 commit to development [+2/-0/±0] https://bitbucket.org/idempiere/idempiere/commits/ 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [iDempiere] nmicoud 6617acb - IDEMPIERE-2279 C_ContactActivity SalesRep_ID has no AD_Reference_Value_ID 
'''''nmicoud''''': gtg, bye bye 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': bye 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [IDEMPIERE] carlosruiz_globalqss updated IDEMPIERE-2275 status set to "Resolved" -resolution set to "Fixed" 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-2275 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [iDempiere] CarlosRuiz_globalqss pushed 1 commit to development [+0/-0/±3] https://bitbucket.org/idempiere/idempiere/commits/ 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [iDempiere] globalqss 2e4ff71 - IDEMPIERE-2275 Process button of toolbar doesn't handle access / based on patch from Nicolas Micoud (nmicoud) 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [IDEMPIERE] carlosruiz_globalqss updated IDEMPIERE-2089 Attachment set to "IDEMPIERE-2089_CR.patch" 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [IDEMPIERE] Hi [~nmicoud], can you please test the attached IDEMPIERE-2089_CR.patch It covers more points where the hardcoded window is defining behavior. 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-2089 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [IDEMPIERE] carlosruiz_globalqss updated IDEMPIERE-2260 status set to "Resolved" -assignee set to "Nicolas Micoud" -resolution set to "Fixed" 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-2260 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [iDempiere] CarlosRuiz_globalqss pushed 1 commit to development [+2/-0/±2] https://bitbucket.org/idempiere/idempiere/commits/ 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [iDempiere] globalqss ee261bb - IDEMPIERE-2271 iDempiere is hardcoded EMail to support subject / IDEMPIERE-2260 iDempiere is hardcoded in MClient.testEMail / based on patch from Nicolas Micoud (nmicoud) 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [IDEMPIERE] carlosruiz_globalqss updated IDEMPIERE-2271 status set to "Resolved" -assignee set to "Nicolas Micoud" -resolution set to "Fixed" 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-2271 
'''''norbertbede''''': hi all 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': hi norbertbede 
'''''norbertbede''''': any news with ZK7 reported issues fixing ? im able to teste again :) 
'''''norbertbede''''': hi carlosruiz 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': hieplq have fixed some 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [IDEMPIERE] norbert.bede created IDEMPIERE-2281 Alert Processor and Scheduler ignoring Client Storage Provider Setup 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-2281 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [IDEMPIERE] norbert.bede created IDEMPIERE-2282 Print format footer - prints database server details - security issue 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-2282 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [IDEMPIERE] norbert.bede created IDEMPIERE-2283 Print format - footer hardcoded idempiere instead installation name 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-2283 
'''''allgood''''': hi folks, back again with some doubts 
'''''allgood''''': is there a way to remote debug an idempiere installation with eclipse? 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': yes - you start the idempiere server adding debug as parameter 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': idempiere-server.sh debug 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': and then you can connect to port 4554 
'''''allgood''''': wow... it is already made... 
'''''allgood''''': i added some parameters to the command line, but eclipse doesn't obey the break points 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': ah - is tricky - when you define the remote application you must choose a project 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': I think just breakpoints within that project are caught 
'''''allgood''''': i can only debug one project? 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': maybe there is another way - but I haven't researched 
'''''allgood''''': i am trying to look why my ACTIVE plugin isn't registering the document event handler... it happens only on the deployed installation.. on eclipse it works! 
'''''allgood''''': could it be because the service.ranking value? 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': yes - that's necessary 
'''''allgood''''': but the problem would appear on eclipse also, right? 
'''''allgood''''': i am connecting to the ieventmanager service 
'''''allgood''''': looks like there is no service.ranking on the client side 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [IDEMPIERE] carlosruiz_globalqss created IDEMPIERE-2284 MProductCategory/MAssetGroup s_cache useless 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-2284 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [IDEMPIERE] carlosruiz_globalqss updated IDEMPIERE-2284 status set to "Resolved" -resolution set to "Fixed" 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-2284 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [iDempiere] CarlosRuiz_globalqss pushed 2 commits to development [+0/-0/±3] https://bitbucket.org/idempiere/idempiere/commits/ 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [iDempiere] globalqss 788b5fb - IDEMPIERE-2116 Cannot correct Inventory OnHand ORA-01861 / thanks to David Garcia for the hint 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [iDempiere] globalqss 8e403d4 - IDEMPIERE-2284 MProductCategory/MAssetGroup s_cache useless 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [iDempiere] CarlosRuiz_globalqss pushed 1 commit to zk7 [+15/-16/±14] https://bitbucket.org/idempiere/idempiere/commits/ 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [iDempiere] globalqss cc12bac - IDEMPIERE-2245 Platform Upgrade for r3 
'''''norbertbede''''': CarlosRuiz are you tested idempiere on amazon EC2/RDS ? 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [IDEMPIERE] carlosruiz_globalqss updated IDEMPIERE-2245 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [IDEMPIERE] https://bitbucket.org/idempiere/idempiere/commits/cc12bac Upgrade libraries: from postgresql-9.2-1004.jdbc4.jar to postgresql-9.3-1102.jdbc41.jar from c3p0-0.9.2.jar to c3p0-0.9.5-pre9.bin.zip from ojdbc6.jar to ojdbc7.jar from cron4j-2.2.1.jar to cron4j-2.2.5.zip from jcommon-1.0.16.jar to 1.0.23 from jfreechart-1.0.13.jar to 1.0.19 from super-csv-2.0.0-beta-1.jar to 2.2.0 from vt-password-3.1.1.jar to 3.1.2 from jasperreports-5.1.2.jar 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-2245 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [IDEMPIERE] carlosruiz_globalqss updated IDEMPIERE-2116 status set to "Resolved" -assignee set to "Carlos Antonio Ruiz Gomez" -resolution set to "Fixed" 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-2116 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': I did basic tests to create the database - but not deep 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': I think Chuck Boecking have tested RDS more 
'''''norbertbede''''': we are running live 8GB (large instance) EC2 and RDS large (8GB) 
'''''norbertbede''''': there are 3 clients running live 12 hours/day 
'''''norbertbede''''': generally i want to share our experiences 
'''''allgood''''': I have 2 classes that connects to the IEventHandler service, is there a limitation on this? should I use only one per bundle? 
'''''norbertbede''''': we running pgbadger and VisualVM for tune. 
'''''allgood''''': this is consequence of a refactor, we merged 2 bundles into 1 
'''''norbertbede''''': overall in comparision with a dell server with 16GB ram - running java+pg looks me worst response for enduser 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [iDempiere] CarlosRuiz_globalqss pushed 1 commit to zk7 [+8/-0/±19] https://bitbucket.org/idempiere/idempiere/commits/ 
'''''norbertbede''''': usually when opening windows tabs etc 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [iDempiere] globalqss 1568d91 - Merge development (8e403d4382f8) into zk7 branch 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [iDempiere] CarlosRuiz_globalqss pushed 1 commit to zk7 [+0/-0/±2] https://bitbucket.org/idempiere/idempiere/commits/ 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [iDempiere] globalqss c0b8256 - IDEMPIERE-2245 Platform Upgrade for r3 / drop the maxtime getting the files - it didn't allow to finish correctly in jenkins 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [IDEMPIERE] nmicoud updated IDEMPIERE-2089 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [IDEMPIERE] Hi Carlos, The patch is ok for me, thanks I think we could then open other tickets to manage other hardcoded windows this way (eg: DPActivitites or AMenu) WDYT ? Nicolas 
'''''Not-2f44''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-2089 
'''''mand1nga''''': norbertbede: how large is the database on that instance? 
'''''mand1nga''''': just curious about it 
'''''norbertbede''''': hi mand1nga 
'''''norbertbede''''': do you mean in mb ? 
'''''norbertbede''''': or bckup size 
'''''mand1nga''''': hello 
'''''norbertbede''''': backup size is approx 1,4GB 
'''''mand1nga''''': 1st option, backup might be compressed ;) 
'''''norbertbede''''': after i remove files stored in database 
'''''norbertbede''''': its an issue where e.g. in adempiere i found at customer 4GB just ad_attachements 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': norbertbede, do you mean rds is slower than the dell? 
'''''norbertbede''''': im comparing now pgbadger reports 
'''''norbertbede''''': RDS looks OK 
'''''mand1nga''''': I believe it's a good practice to store ad_attachments on a dedicated tablespace, pointing to a different disk 
'''''norbertbede''''': we had some issues with indexes 
'''''norbertbede''''': but after proper indexing our CPU with 8GB runninh 20-40% on peaks 
'''''norbertbede''''': the worst is SAN networj 
'''''norbertbede''''': k 
'''''mand1nga''''': it's a nice setup though, looks like it can handle a much bigger database 
'''''norbertbede''''': means EC2 and RDS latency 
'''''norbertbede''''': on network 
'''''norbertbede''''': in last month RDS was updated to SSD disks 
'''''norbertbede''''': and each GB storage reserve for you 3 PIOPS 
'''''norbertbede''''': means in case 100GB you have reserverd 300 PIOPS/sec 
'''''norbertbede''''': its quite enough 
'''''norbertbede''''': max now is around 50 
'''''norbertbede''''': but ec2 instance looks me slow 
'''''norbertbede''''': instance type is m3large 8GB ram and 2 ecu 
'''''norbertbede''''': zk has slow responses unpredictable 
'''''norbertbede''''': that is im waiting Zk7 with new server instead tomcat 
'''''mand1nga''''': is it slow serving static files? 
'''''norbertbede''''': we are not using filesystem well. soon CPU and RAM 
'''''norbertbede''''': so Fs doenst make sense IMHO 
'''''mand1nga''''': I'm not thinking about hardware, more about server tuning, tomcat in this case 
'''''norbertbede''''': the problem is ec2 hardware behind is shared with others 
'''''norbertbede''''': that make unpredictable system 
'''''norbertbede''''': what experts recommend to reserve over 1 physical hardware 
'''''norbertbede''''': then you are the "boss" - then its eventually much morebetter 
'''''mand1nga''''': gotcha 
'''''norbertbede''''': cant imagine how can i tune better actual tomcat/osgi 
'''''norbertbede''''': we have setup 3GB for osgi in startup script 
'''''norbertbede''''': that is what we done also on dell 
'''''norbertbede''''': i have start also VisualVM for monitoring JAVA Machine inside 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': what I'm using in a production installation is - production machine is a dedicated server with 64GB - and amazon instance is a contingency server (replicated via pg replication and attachments in fs replicated using rsync) 
'''''norbertbede''''': so we need to learn lot :) 
'''''norbertbede''''': CarlosRuiz but its dedicated not amazon aws 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': yep - I use amazon as contingency - not for production 
'''''norbertbede''''': ah ok. i see 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': in that installation 
'''''mand1nga''''': I see that opening a sales order window triggers about 50 http requests 
'''''norbertbede''''': amazon is very easy to setup and maintain 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': is a big one - in my metrics I think the performance of a single dedicated against two amazon (one for DB and one for adempiere) is 3:1 
'''''norbertbede''''': i like that 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': but in the previous installation we still didn't have RDS - probably with RDS can improve to 2:1 
'''''norbertbede''''': what you mean about setup running multiple clients as SaaS on 1 server :) 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': still you cannot get with amazon the performance of a dedicated - I think is not feasible - and if you try to scale up the amazon server - then the cost becomes too high compared with a dedicated 
'''''norbertbede''''': yes costs are higher... 
'''''mand1nga''''': norbertbede: have you taken a look at https://tomcat.apache.org/articles/performance.pdf ? 
'''''mand1nga''''': that might make some difference, given the somewhat high amount of http requests, imho 
'''''norbertbede''''': CarlosRuiz do you mean jetty improve perfornace ? 
'''''norbertbede''''': thanks mand1nga 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': it must - but maybe we need an unbiased report :-) 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': look this page 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': https://webtide.com/why-choose-jetty/ 
'''''mand1nga''''': anytime 
'''''norbertbede''''': i met this site. that is why believe could help 
'''''norbertbede''''': jetty 
'''''mand1nga''''': sounds nice 
'''''norbertbede''''': maybe an indiscrete question.trek global running amazon or dedicated servers. multitenant ? 
'''''norbertbede''''': maybe its secret :) 
'''''norbertbede''''': just for curious 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': OK, this is the plan - from the actual development branch I'm going to create release 2.1 - and 2.1 will become the next maintenance branch (2.0 will be closed for maintenance) 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': after 2.1 released - then I'll integrate zk7 into development and it will become r3.0 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': I created the templates for new features 2.1 wiki pages 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': I would like to get community help to document the new features described in this category 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': http://wiki.idempiere.org/en/Category:To_Be_Documented 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': whatever you can contribute to 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': I'll post this in forums too - and publish this also as weekly meeting 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': gtg now - c u then

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 '''''a42niem''''': hi all, back from hospital, getting up to normality again<br>
 '''''CarlosRuiz''''': Hi Dirk<br>
 '''''ocurieles_DCS''''': Good Morning<br>
 '''''CarlosRuiz''''': Morning<br>
 '''''allgood''''': good morning folks<br>
 '''''CarlosRuiz''''': Hi Claudemir<br>
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 '''''CarlosRuiz''''': I'll try<br>
 '''''nmicoud''''': thanks<br>
 '''''nmicoud''''': gtg, bye bye<br>
 '''''CarlosRuiz''''': bye<br>
 '''''norbertbede''''': hi all<br>
 '''''CarlosRuiz''''': hi norbertbede <br>
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 '''''norbertbede''''': hi carlosruiz<br>
 '''''CarlosRuiz''''': hieplq have fixed some<br>
 '''''allgood''''': hi folks, back again with some doubts<br>
 '''''allgood''''': is there a way to remote debug an idempiere installation with eclipse?<br>
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 '''''allgood''''': i am connecting to the ieventmanager service<br>
 '''''allgood''''': looks like there is no service.ranking on the client side<br>
 '''''norbertbede''''': CarlosRuiz are you tested idempiere on amazon EC2/RDS ?<br>
 '''''CarlosRuiz''''': I did basic tests to create the database - but not deep<br>
 '''''CarlosRuiz''''': I think Chuck Boecking have tested RDS more<br>
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 '''''allgood''''': this is consequence of a refactor, we merged 2 bundles into 1<br>
 '''''norbertbede''''': overall in comparision with a dell server with 16GB ram - running java+pg looks me worst response for enduser<br>
 '''''norbertbede''''': usually when opening windows tabs etc<br>
 '''''mand1nga''''': norbertbede: how large is the database on that instance?<br>
 '''''mand1nga''''': just curious about it<br>