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Full Meeting 2014-01-15


'''''CarlosRuiz''''': Good Morning 
'''''tbayen''''': Daarestiet! 
'''''nmicoud''''': Bonjour 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] tbayen updated IDEMPIERE-1686 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] This patch works well for me. please review. To make use of it I copied the run configuration of the GenerateModel application. Then I added the following to the "Program arguments" text field: {code} '${project_loc}/src' 'de.bayen.freibier.model' 'BAY' 'BAY_%' {code} (the values are just an example for my own freibier plugin project). I can save this run configuration and start it with one click. :-) 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1686 
'''''tbayen''''': I am annoyed that GenerateModel does not work from commandline and did IDEMPIERE-1686 
'''''alaragh''''': good morning 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': yep - sounds like a good idea 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': Hi alaragh 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': nmicoud, I've been working on your list - is long :-) 
'''''nmicoud''''': :) 
'''''nmicoud''''': i've seen the status line and the quick info. that's great ! 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': yep - thanks for that 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] deepak created IDEMPIERE-1691 Balance Sheet Defense (BSD) window 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1691 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': after your patch for status line - implementing the quick info was very easy 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': but it needs some refinement 
'''''nmicoud''''': i've showed it yesterday and people were very enthousiastic ; that give them lots of idea ;) 
'''''nmicoud''''': the 'Help' panel is really useful 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': just need to be careful the queries are performance friendly 
'''''Deepak''''': CarlosRuiz I did not found i3.0 folder in migration 
'''''Deepak''''': Should I create it? 
'''''Deepak''''': We are ready with write-off charge patch 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': no, please use i2.0z in development branch 
'''''Deepak''''': ohk, Thanks 
'''''red1''''': hi thomas tbayen i read you are quite active in the googlegroup 
'''''tbayen''''': Hi red1. :-) yes, I try. 
'''''Deepak''''': I have to leave, will commit write-off charge enhancement and inform tbayen and nmicoud for peer review 
'''''red1''''': bye Deepak 
'''''tbayen''''': bye 
'''''red1''''': tbayen: u did more than try! 
'''''red1''''': your words are beyond me now. I think your beer company should appear in the German IT portal news 
'''''Deepak''''': Appreciate tbayen's effort and hope red1's wish come true:) 
'''''tbayen''''': My idea is that I learn for myself with every question I answer. And I feel there is still very much to learn. 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': did you see how active is the forum? 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': http://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!aboutgroup/idempiere 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': 388 posts in december! which is a holidays month - I'm amazed 
'''''tbayen''''': Haha! It is year end and everyone was afraid of the accounting consequences. 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': november had 435 posts 
'''''red1''''': haha 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': most active posters this month -> hieplq and tbayen - congratulations and thanks! 
'''''tbayen''''': I do not really care about the numbers. I would like to have the knowledge to post less but better content. 
'''''red1''''': Are you running for Chancellor? 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': well - numbers are important to measure the growing - AFAIR TWD project had those numbers just when there were wars 
'''''hieplq''''': asker vs answer :) 
'''''red1''''': A humble attitude is politically correct.. it can unseat me 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': and we're having those numbers with technical/functional content - good quality mostly 
'''''red1''''': nmicoud also contribute good stuff 
'''''red1''''': i like the dynamic status line config 
'''''tbayen''''': Perhaps we should begin a war to get even better??? 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': hahaha 
'''''nmicoud''''': merci ;) 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': please somebody call red1 a nazi and we start from there 
'''''tbayen''''': :-) 
'''''red1''''': Yes, the only way to restore my fame 
'''''red1''''': from the bottom straight up past these European powers 
'''''red1''''': i think tbayen should join ADeV 
'''''red1''''': IIRC, he shoujld sign the declaration form 
'''''tbayen''''': You know I tried but they did not want me. :...-( 
'''''red1''''': and declare not to love iDempiere more 
'''''red1''''': you cannot be passionate 
'''''tbayen''''': Another theme for the meeting: Since IDEMPIERE-1285 (estimated landed cost for PO) the old Chart of Account files do no more work because there is a new default account. The US file seems to be updated but not the language specific. I did IDEMPIERE-1685 about that. What do we want to do with these language specific files?!? 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': nmicoud, reevaluation IDEMPIERE-1461 - will test and if it still works I'll commit it 
'''''nmicoud''''': ok, thanks 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': tbayen, IMHO the Accounting files must be treated like the translations files - must be out of core and maintained by somebody responsible 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': having those files without a maintainer leads to these situations - people try to create a tenant with an unmaintained file and it fails 
'''''tbayen''''': I think this is a bit more urgent. If the trranslations are outdated it leads to some bad translated texts. If the coa files are outdated this leads to ne users not being able to install the program. We should either delete or repair them but not let them in an erroreous state. 
'''''nmicoud''''': another option would be to modify the initial client setup to allow creation of tenants even if an account is missing (program could create a temp account) ? 
'''''tbayen''''': I could create a new repository to keep the unmaintained and a wikipage to document it and show users the right way. The german coa files go into my translation repository. 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': my vote to delete them and point to a wiki page for download 
'''''tbayen''''': ok. I will take care to prepare that. 
'''''tbayen''''': But I also like nmicoud s idea to be able to instantiate idempiere without a full coa (or totally without a coa file). 
'''''tbayen''''': If a new user wants to play around with the program this is always a step to take. Some default values could help here for newbies to feel more comfortable. 
'''''nmicoud''''': we can do both, no ? 
'''''tbayen''''': yes, absolutely! 
'''''nmicoud''''': it's been a long time since i've been in the code of InitialClientSetup, but i think it can be updated this way. WDYT ? 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': nmicoud / tbayen - initially I thought is not good to create things in the back of the user 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': but thinking maybe we can create a node on the tree called "non-configured default accounts" - create the account with value=defaultname and inactivate that account 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': and hengsin added -> I think that can be an option in the initial client setup. not a default but an explicit checkbox that user have to select. 
'''''red1''''': sounds good 
'''''red1''''': hola angel aparra_dcs 
'''''tbayen''''': How about a "default coa file" that is included in the classpath and can be choosed with a checkbox in the initial client setup instead of the file chooser? 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] carlosruiz_globalqss updated IDEMPIERE-1325 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] Antonio, thanks for contributing, we like the idea of changing and making the homepage customizable. Two issues: 1 - could you please make the default icons less windows8? Good idea that logos can be made configurable - so it can be changed per installation - but we would prefer for the default to have less windows8 L&F 2 - The links for webui, idempiereMonitor and felix console are missing - I think they must be made configurable also, if 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1325 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': tbayen, I think CoA is mostly not standardized 
'''''tbayen''''': Yes, it is. But I think this to let a newbie install the software as easy as possible. 
'''''tbayen''''': I would give the coa of the US file but only the default accounts. 
'''''Not-003''''': [iDempiere] CarlosRuiz_globalqss pushed 1 commit to development [+2/-0/±7] https://bitbucket.org/idempiere/idempiere/commits/ 
'''''Not-003''''': [iDempiere] globalqss 3a12690 - IDEMPIERE-1461 Zoom Condition doesn't work on empty fields 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': well - the proposed flag would enable to install without a CoA 
'''''Not-003''''': [iDempiere] CarlosRuiz_globalqss pushed 1 commit to development [+2/-0/±5] https://bitbucket.org/idempiere/idempiere/commits/ 
'''''Not-003''''': [iDempiere] globalqss b0cc157 - IDEMPIERE-1588 Add country on non business days table 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] carlosruiz_globalqss updated IDEMPIERE-1461 status set to "Resolved" -assignee set to "Carlos Antonio Ruiz Gomez" -resolution set to "Fixed" 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1461 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] carlosruiz_globalqss updated IDEMPIERE-1588 status set to "Resolved" -resolution set to "Fixed" 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1588 
'''''Not-003''''': [iDempiere] CarlosRuiz_globalqss pushed 1 commit to development [+0/-0/±1] https://bitbucket.org/idempiere/idempiere/commits/ 
'''''Not-003''''': [iDempiere] globalqss 5d0e909 - IDEMPIERE-1505 Missing getParameter_ToAsTimestamp() method in ProcessInfoParameter 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] carlosruiz_globalqss updated IDEMPIERE-1505 status set to "Resolved" -assignee set to "Nicolas Micoud" -resolution set to "Fixed" 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1505 
'''''Not-003''''': [iDempiere] CarlosRuiz_globalqss pushed 1 commit to development [+0/-0/±1] https://bitbucket.org/idempiere/idempiere/commits/ 
'''''Not-003''''': [iDempiere] nmicoud aa6ec2c - IDEMPIERE-1627 Jasper Report shouldn't display "No Colums - Delete Report Format " + reportName + " and start again" message 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] carlosruiz_globalqss updated IDEMPIERE-1627 status set to "Resolved" -assignee set to "Nicolas Micoud" -resolution set to "Fixed" 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1627 
'''''DCSsaul''''': hi people 
'''''DCSsaul''''': i have a problem running parallel thread in idempiere 
'''''DCSsaul''''': I'm using AEnv.executeAsyncDesktopTask(this); but it locks window until the thread is to completed 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': Hi Saúl 
'''''DCSsaul''''': Hi Carlos 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': I haven't used that 
'''''DCSsaul''''': Well try "t = new Thread (this); t.Start ()", but neither worked 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] tbayen updated IDEMPIERE-1685 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] In the meeting of 2014-15-01 we decided the following: {quote} *<tbayen>* I could create a new repository to keep the unmaintained and a wikipage to document it and show users the right way. The german coa files go into my translation repository. *<CarlosRuiz>* my vote to delete them and point to a wiki page for download *<tbayen>* ok. I will take care to prepare that. {quote} and also the following: {quote} *<nmicoud>* another option woul 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1685 
'''''tbayen''''': When I create a new repository for the unmaintained repositories I would like to use a more mercurial-friendly file format instead of *.xls. Does anybody know if *.fods (OpenDocument Flat XML) can be read by Microsoft Excel?!? 
'''''tbayen''''': ...unmaintained coa files... 
'''''hieplq''''': hi tbayen, why not .csv file? 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': yep - I think csv - the xls is for the template US having some comments on columns 
'''''tbayen''''': The now used directory contains both with the same data. Some of the *.xls files contain additional formatting informations that make it a bit easier to work on them (like comments on the headers or coloured columns for the balance accounts). 
'''''tbayen''''': I will look into the files and save them as fodt if I find something useful in them. The german ones do not contain useful formatting. There I can just delete the *.xls. 
'''''hieplq''''': Hi tbayen I see comment use only description about header. maybe make a file "header guide.csv" with a two line, first is header and second is description. other file keep in csv without conmment 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] deepak updated IDEMPIERE-1687 Attachment set to "IDEMPIERE-1687.patch" 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] I am attaching patch here. Please review and integrate same to code. 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1687 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] hieplq created IDEMPIERE-1692 wrong message when exception throw by run process 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1692 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] hieplq updated IDEMPIERE-1692 Attachment set to "jira-capture-screenshot-20140116-002248-589.png" 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1692 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] hieplq updated IDEMPIERE-1692 assignee set to "hieplq" -Fix Version set to "iDempiere HEAD" -labels set to "+Patch" -Version set to "iDempiere HEAD" -Attachment set to "IDEMPIERE-1692.patch" 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] please review. 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1692 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] hieplq updated IDEMPIERE-1692 status set to "Peer Review Queue" 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1692 
'''''nmicoud''''': hey guys, note that i've updated the email adress of SuperUser on demo.idempiere.com to superuser@idempiere.com (wanted to test the RequestEmailProcessor). And now, i can't set the 'old' email with the spaces as it is invalid :( 
'''''hieplq''''': Hi nmicoud, please refe: https://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1671 
'''''nmicoud''''': i know, my message is for inform people they won't be able to login 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': you can use SQL Form for that 
'''''nmicoud''''': ah right ; will do this 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': sorry I mean "SQL Process" as System 
'''''nmicoud''''': nope : SQL> update ad_user set email = superuser @ idempiere.com where ad_user_id = 100 ===> ERROR: Not Allowed Keyword UPDATE 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': ah - just intended for ALTER 
'''''nmicoud''''': it seems 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': done 
'''''nmicoud''''': thanks 
'''''nmicoud''''': about the REquestEmailProcessor, i've done some rapid test and notice that when the attachment got accent, the filename was like "=?UTF-8?Q?Analyse_dev_tol=C3=A9rance_montant_=C3=A9cart_de" ; is it windows related ? or is this something that need to be fixed ? 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': sounds like a bug 
'''''nmicoud''''': ok, will open a jira ticket then 
'''''hieplq''''': hi guys. In class InfoProductWindow. line 634. Current, use log level for show info by warehouse or by storage. I think we should add a checkbox into button panell for this. WDYT? 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': agree - user cannot change the log level 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': not on server 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': that's probably inherited from swing 
'''''hieplq''''': ok. i will create ticket for it 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': thanks 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': good catch! 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] hieplq created IDEMPIERE-1693 In InfoProductWindow, tab "Available to Promise" can change by change level of log. Should make a checkbox for it. 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1693 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': just noticed that "Invoice Not Realized Gain & Loss Report" is just working in english 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] acanaveral updated IDEMPIERE-1325 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] Hello Carlos, Thanks for your comments. About doing further customizable home page also it seems to me, I'll make the changes that you are proposing. The design style to windows8 because it is the current trend. We are willing to redesign from a proposal. We welcome design proposals, or how about if we create a survey of how the community would like it to be the homepage? We are committed to implement it 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1325 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] nmicoud created IDEMPIERE-1694 RequestEMailProcessor : email attachments with accent gives weird filenames on AD_Attachment 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1694 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] carlosruiz_globalqss updated IDEMPIERE-1325 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] Thanks Antonio, I like the idea of the survey, but maybe also to take into account these: http://www.eweek.com/enterprise-apps/microsoft-sued-over-windows-8-tiles/ http://www.dailytech.com/Predator+Becomes+Prey+Microsoft+Sued+Over+Windows+8+WinPhone+Live+Tiles/article29081.htm Regards, Carlos Ruiz 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1325 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] acanaveral updated IDEMPIERE-1325 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] Oops, did not know that the "Tiles" interface had patent SurfCast. I will tell my designer to propose models for the community to see and decide with which we keep. Regards. 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1325 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] hieplq updated IDEMPIERE-1325 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] interest information. But I don't think current design relate to tiles. it don't have feature of tiles :P containing refreshed content that provides a real-time or near-real-time view of the underlying information. an at-a-glance view of the current status of the program, file, or content associated with it. It just flat design + microsoft color style :) we can add more support channel? skype icon, facebook icon, mobile number,... 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1325 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] carlosruiz_globalqss created IDEMPIERE-1695 Errors on Invoice Not Realized Gain/Loss 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1695 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] carlosruiz_globalqss updated IDEMPIERE-1695 labels set to "+Patch" 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1695 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] carlosruiz_globalqss updated IDEMPIERE-1695 Attachment set to "IDEMPIERE-1695.patch" 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] Attaching patch IDEMPIERE-1695.patch - I tested a case with AR - need to test case where for just AP and combined AP/AR Regards, Carlos Ruiz 
'''''Not-003''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1695

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 '''''tbayen''''': Daarestiet!<br>
 '''''nmicoud''''': Bonjour<br>
 '''''tbayen''''': I am annoyed that GenerateModel does not work from commandline and did IDEMPIERE-1686<br>
 '''''alaragh''''': good morning<br>
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 '''''nmicoud''''': i've seen the status line and the quick info. that's great !<br>
 '''''CarlosRuiz''''': yep - thanks for that<br>
 '''''CarlosRuiz''''': after your patch for status line - implementing the quick info was very easy<br>
 '''''CarlosRuiz''''': but it needs some refinement<br>
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 '''''red1''''': hola angel aparra_dcs<br>
 '''''tbayen''''': How about a "default coa file" that is included in the classpath and can be choosed with a checkbox in the initial client setup instead of the file chooser?<br>
 '''''CarlosRuiz''''': tbayen, I think CoA is mostly not standardized<br>
 '''''tbayen''''': Yes, it is. But I think this to let a newbie install the software as easy as possible.<br>
 '''''tbayen''''': I would give the coa of the US file but only the default accounts.<br>
 '''''CarlosRuiz''''': well - the proposed flag would enable to install without a CoA<br>
 '''''DCSsaul''''': hi people<br>
 '''''DCSsaul''''': i have a problem running parallel thread in idempiere<br>
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 '''''CarlosRuiz''''': I haven't used that<br>
 '''''DCSsaul''''': Well try "t = new Thread (this); t.Start ()", but neither worked<br>
 '''''tbayen''''': When I create a new repository for the unmaintained repositories I would like to use a more mercurial-friendly file format instead of *.xls. Does anybody know if *.fods (OpenDocument Flat XML) can be read by Microsoft Excel?!?<br>
 '''''tbayen''''': ...unmaintained coa files...<br>
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 '''''tbayen''''': I will look into the files and save them as fodt if I find something useful in them. The german ones do not contain useful formatting. There I can just delete the *.xls.<br>
 '''''hieplq''''': Hi tbayen I see comment use only description about header. maybe make a file "header guide.csv" with a two line, first is header and second is description. other file keep in csv without conmment<br>
 '''''nmicoud''''': hey guys, note that i've updated the email adress of SuperUser on demo.idempiere.com to superuser@idempiere.com (wanted to test the RequestEmailProcessor). And now, i can't set the 'old' email with the spaces as it is invalid :(<br>
 '''''hieplq''''': Hi nmicoud, please refe: https://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1671<br>
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 '''''CarlosRuiz''''': thanks<br>
 '''''CarlosRuiz''''': good catch!<br>
 '''''CarlosRuiz''''': just noticed that "Invoice Not Realized Gain & Loss Report" is just working in english<br>