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Full Meeting 2013-09-18


'''''PedroRozo''''': Good Morning/Afternnon everyone ... 
'''''red1''''': should we export or move those away to external Libero Mfg plugin? 
'''''hengsin''''': we can't move those to libero mfg plugin. the one in libero is not the same 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': Good Morning 
'''''JanThielemann_''''': morning 
'''''nmicoud''''': Bonjour 
'''''PedroRozo''''': Carlos. quick question: LCO is stable within idempiere .?..we are targeting to start a small implementation soon with Idempeere and want to see if LCO is 100% functional at this moment. 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': PedroRozo, please test it and report any issue 
'''''red1''''': hengsin: so can i raise tracker that package in Callout be exported for use from outside? 
'''''Not-002''''': [iDempiere] CarlosRuiz_globalqss pushed 2 commits to development [+0/-0/±3] https://bitbucket.org/idempiere/idempiere/commits/ 
'''''Not-002''''': [iDempiere] hengsin 2f530ce - IDEMPIERE-1362 Implement support to register/unregister available dashboard content. Fixed access to dashboard gadget not filter by user and role. 
'''''Not-002''''': [iDempiere] hengsin 8d38253 - IDEMPIERE-1064 Control dashboard access by role. Fixed maintenance of dashboard preference. 
'''''hengsin''''': yes, that can be useful if you want to extend it. what's your use case here ? 
'''''hengsin''''': Hi, Carlos, any progress on the zoom to detail tab issue ? 
'''''PedroRozo''''': sure Carlos. we are already in that process, just want check from your side, what is your status about it ...do you think is already stable ? 
'''''hengsin''''': that's one significant usability issue. 
'''''red1''''': hengsin: i am just extending the CalloutInOut 
'''''red1''''': u are right, its not using its own Libero 
'''''red1''''': that is in adempiere.base > org.eevolution.model 
'''''red1''''': so i rephrase - can we migrate eevolution away from base? 
'''''red1''''': since its only in use by external plugin 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': hengsin, for the zoom to detail there is a patch from Juliana that I'm peer reviewing now 
'''''red1''''': and adempiere.base.Callout needs to export out org.compiere.model for common Callout reuse 
'''''red1''''': PedroRozo: question about stabllity cannot be answered by the creator 
'''''red1''''': he released it so that others test it. Then collectively we attest to its stability 
'''''red1''''': there is no vendor relationship here 
'''''Deepak''''': hengsin, Have you get chance to peer review IDEMPIERE-1306? 
'''''red1''''': i am about to release Libero Mfg... hope others test it 
'''''PedroRozo''''': Red1 ...i get your point, but still as a users/integrators, any time that we try to use a product/component from otehr members we expect to have a preliminary status of the stability/sttaus , is is a normal expectation ... doesn´t it ? 
'''''red1''''': it depends on testing <-- normal expectations 
'''''red1''''': Software development 101 
'''''red1''''': read the trackers, to ajudge some idea 
'''''red1''''': talk to others via forums on using it 
'''''hengsin''''': deepak, sorry, not yet. 
'''''red1''''': those who use will hit bugs 
'''''red1''''': then they are expected to report it <-- expected 
'''''red1''''': i never believe a developer's own testing 
'''''red1''''': or claims for that matter 
'''''red1''''': if i do, i will be happy in Adempiere 
'''''red1''''': put it bluntly, i don't trust Carlos. :D 
'''''red1''''': i advise u to do the same 
'''''red1''''': trust the Jenkins for build errors, then the JIRA for community usage that attest to its usability and stability 
'''''red1''''': just my 2 threads 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': hengsin, about IDEMPIERE-1064 - did you check also the comment from Antonio Cañaveral? 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] carlosruiz_globalqss updated IDEMPIERE-1362 status set to "Resolved" -assignee set to "Heng Sin Low" -resolution set to "Fixed" 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1362 
'''''PedroRozo''''': red1/carlos. I understand your "community oriented " perspective of testing ... but as a community, once in a while we should share our expriences/suggestion about challenges/stability of our components ... something simple as:, we believe is stable .. or perhaps : better wait , alot of developemnt is in progress ... anyways, thanks for your feedback . 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': PedroRozo, I already answered your question -> please test it and report any issue 
'''''hengsin''''': Carlos, yes, that's addressed 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] carlosruiz_globalqss updated IDEMPIERE-1064 status set to "Resolved" -assignee set to "Heng Sin Low" -resolution set to "Fixed" 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1064 
'''''red1''''': PedroRozo: does any other FOSS project does what you say? 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': Venezuela and Ecuador are testing LCO - reporting issues and some reports come with proper patch to fix 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': usually a bug report is fixed on next day (when not same day) - that's what I expect from community 
'''''red1''''': CarlosRuiz: LCO testing, bugs reported in the trackers by them ? 
'''''red1''''': sorry, you just answered! 
'''''PedroRozo''''': do you have any knowledge/guidelines about this topic :Warehouse within GL Distribution in Idempiere/adempiere 3.6) ...https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=es#!topic/idempiere/_MrnG4BBitU 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] red1 created IDEMPIERE-1373 org.adempiere.base.callout plugin needs to export org.compiere.model 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1373 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': PedroRozo, you can try configuring userelement1 as warehouse 
'''''PedroRozo''''': but is that warehouse functionality working within the GL distribution logic ? ...or is there any otehr docs/url about how to use these advanced/hidden fields of the GL distribution ? 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': > but is that warehouse functionality working within the GL distribution logic 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': you must test it 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': > is there any otehr docs/url about how to use these advanced/hidden fields of the GL distribution? 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': there must be in *mpiere wikis 
'''''JanThielemann_''''': is it possible to group invoices for a customer? 
'''''JanThielemann_''''': for example a customer order on 1st, 5th and 8th of month and only get 1 invoice on 31st? 
'''''nmicoud''''': there is a checkbox for this 
'''''nmicoud''''': in generate invoice process 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': invoice schedule functionality 
'''''nmicoud''''': something like 'consolidate' 
'''''JanThielemann_''''': thank you :) 
'''''JanThielemann_''''': what about delivery advice/notification - in german it's call "avis" 
'''''DCS_Ocurieles''''': good morning 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': Hi Orlando 
'''''DCS_Ocurieles''''': I have a question, we are working on payroll plugin, how can create a form on IDempiere ? 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] carlosruiz_globalqss created IDEMPIERE-1374 Enable zoom to match documents 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1374 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': there is already a form in payroll - HRActionNotice - just follow the same approach 
'''''DCS_Ocurieles''''': yes but only for swing client 
'''''aparra''''': swing client idempiere not show this form. 
'''''DCS_Ocurieles''''': and really we need create this form on WebUI 
'''''JanThielemann_''''': use the IFormFactory OSGi component 
'''''JanThielemann_''''': and extend ADForm for webui forms 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': there is a webui form also for HRActionNotice 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': WHRActionNotice - zkwebui view 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': VHRActionNotice - swing view 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': HRActionNotice - model 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] vosskaem created IDEMPIERE-1375 Product info: available to promise shows Date Promised of order instead of order line 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1375 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] carlosruiz_globalqss updated IDEMPIERE-1358 description set to "Steps to reproduce: 1. go to "Table and Column" window 2. navigate to first record on "Column" tab 3. go to first record on "Used in field" tab 4. click right on "Field" field, select "Zoom" of menu contextual. This action, opened "Window. Tab Field" window without records. In log show this error: {code} SEVERE: Count SQL=SELECT COUNT(*) FROM AD_Window WHERE ( ((AD_Field.AD_Fi 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1358 
'''''DCS_Ocurieles''''': carlos in your Adempiere 361 final source is this form ? 
'''''DCS_Ocurieles''''': sorry my iPhone IRC client close my connections 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': long time ago -> https://bitbucket.org/CarlosRuiz_globalqss/globalqss-adempiere-hr/src/tip/zkwebui/WEB-INF/src/org/eevolution/form 
'''''DCS_Ocurieles''''': ok thanks 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': hengsin - got the fix for the zoom to detail - testing it now 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] carlosruiz_globalqss updated IDEMPIERE-1358 assignee set to "Carlos Antonio Ruiz Gomez" 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1358 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] sjeffen created IDEMPIERE-1376 Error message not translated in Validate Business Partner 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1376 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] nmicoud created IDEMPIERE-1377 Display logic of tabs is not used for update of path 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1377 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] nmicoud created IDEMPIERE-1378 Info Windows : add a button to reset all criteria 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1378 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] nmicoud created IDEMPIERE-1379 Info Windows should have their own icon/image 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1379 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] carlosruiz_globalqss updated IDEMPIERE-386 assignee set to "Heng Sin Low" 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-386 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] carlosruiz_globalqss updated IDEMPIERE-1359 status set to "Resolved" -assignee set to "Carlos Antonio Ruiz Gomez" -resolution set to "Incomplete" 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1359 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] norbert.bede created IDEMPIERE-1380 Detail Record panel control missing after reopen 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1380 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] norbert.bede updated IDEMPIERE-1380 Attachment set to "step1.png" 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1380 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] norbert.bede created IDEMPIERE-1381 Cant find - Record Detail for translation - bottom panel 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1381 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] norbert.bede updated IDEMPIERE-1381 Attachment set to "detailrecord.png" 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1381 
'''''norbertbede''''': hi 
'''''norbertbede''''': we imported 15 000 products at customer site to idempiere 
'''''norbertbede''''': after that i cant open product window. error message appear. 
'''''norbertbede''''': does anybody met similar behaviour ? 
'''''norbertbede''''': pls 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': what error message? 
'''''norbertbede''''': moment pls i check it 
'''''norbertbede''''': Timeout loading row 1 
'''''norbertbede''''': 20:07:06.257===========> zkoss.handleError:1359: >>java.lang.IllegalStateException: Timeout loading row 1 
'''''norbertbede''''': if its something new i should create now a new issue 
'''''norbertbede''''': in jira 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': there is a recommendation on forums to create an index to improve performance on product window 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': also can be even better to disable a virtual column that is on product table 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] norbert.bede created IDEMPIERE-1382 left panel overlay "basic desktop" - layout 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1382 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] norbert.bede updated IDEMPIERE-1382 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] tested on Version : 1.0.0.v20130918-1314 Database Version : 20131707164800_IDEMPIERE-1138.sql Vendor : Supported by iDempiere community JVM : OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM 23.7-b01 OS : Linux 3.2.0-53-generic unknown Host : demo.idempiere.com 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1382 
'''''norbertbede''''': co i dont create issue on that - altough 15k record not too mach 
'''''norbertbede''''': thanks - could you redirect me to that topic ? 
'''''norbertbede''''': pls 
'''''norbertbede''''': no result if founding: Timeout loading row 1 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': https://groups.google.com/d/msg/idempiere/dAfXNkfbhcw/vtVUpmbRhokJ 
'''''norbertbede''''': THANKS 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] norbert.bede updated IDEMPIERE-1382 Attachment set to "hide-unhide-leftpane.png" 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1382 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] norbert.bede updated IDEMPIERE-1382 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] client: latest chrome, mac 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1382 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] norbert.bede updated IDEMPIERE-1354 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] patch works, looks. anyway i test it on actual demo.idempiere - not included. why ? maybe i dont understand patch concept vs. version releases.... 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1354 
'''''norbertbede''''': Carlos what you suggest ? we are live at customer, with 1.0c. very slow implementation follow, process by process but realy customer. 
'''''norbertbede''''': i will report each bugs here, we found - or customer - but you suggest to update to nightly build ? 
'''''norbertbede''''': daily - or - periodically 
'''''norbertbede''''': would be nice to know your or community opninion 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': are you at implementation stage? or production? 
'''''norbertbede''''': sorry dont know what you mean stage, but really database, starting each week appox 1 proces 
'''''norbertbede''''': so my side is producrtion 
'''''norbertbede''''': ah - implementation stage - some areas going to production - by proces 
'''''norbertbede''''': understand now 
'''''norbertbede''''': like they started to use business partners, products and assets. so cleaning base data now 
'''''norbertbede''''': then continue with other processes 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': my advice is -> when in production you need to be very careful - apply patches on a test server - test everything and if everything goes ok then move it to prod 
'''''norbertbede''''': ok. so go trough patches, faced probllems 
'''''norbertbede''''': thanks well 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] norbert.bede created IDEMPIERE-1383 html report charset issue 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1383 
'''''norbertbede''''': other topic 
'''''norbertbede''''': we really start testing development on osgi, but my developers has problem with replace an exising feature - override it trough plugin 
'''''norbertbede''''': let'say we cusomise print format and need override basic function, we wonder how to do it 
'''''norbertbede''''': could anybody recommend the right direction ? 
'''''norbertbede''''': i believe my explanation is clear 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] vosskaem created IDEMPIERE-1384 changing moved quantity in production to lower than production quantity results in error 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1384 
'''''hengsin''''': norbertbede, you can't override classes through plugin

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 '''''CarlosRuiz''''': PedroRozo, please test it and report any issue<br>
 '''''red1''''': hengsin: so can i raise tracker that package in Callout be exported for use from outside?<br>
 '''''hengsin''''': yes, that can be useful if you want to extend it. what's your use case here ?<br>
 '''''hengsin''''': Hi, Carlos, any progress on the zoom to detail tab issue ?<br>
@@ Line 51: / Line 48: @@
 '''''red1''''': just my 2 threads<br>
 '''''CarlosRuiz''''': hengsin, about IDEMPIERE-1064 - did you check also the comment from Antonio Cañaveral?<br>
 '''''PedroRozo''''': red1/carlos. I understand your "community oriented " perspective of testing ... but as a community, once in a while we should share our expriences/suggestion about challenges/stability of our components  ... something simple as:, we believe is stable .. or perhaps : better wait , alot of  developemnt is in progress ... anyways, thanks for your feedback .<br>
 '''''CarlosRuiz''''': PedroRozo, I already answered your question -> please test it and report any issue<br>
 '''''hengsin''''': Carlos, yes, that's addressed<br>
 '''''red1''''': PedroRozo: does any other FOSS project does what you say?<br>
 '''''CarlosRuiz''''': Venezuela and Ecuador are testing LCO - reporting issues and some reports come with proper patch to fix<br>
@@ Line 64: / Line 57: @@
 '''''red1''''': sorry, you just answered!<br>
 '''''PedroRozo''''': do you have any knowledge/guidelines about this topic :Warehouse within GL Distribution in Idempiere/adempiere 3.6) ...https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=es#!topic/idempiere/_MrnG4BBitU<br>
 '''''CarlosRuiz''''': PedroRozo, you can try configuring userelement1 as warehouse<br>
 '''''PedroRozo''''': but is that warehouse functionality working within the GL distribution logic ? ...or is there any otehr docs/url about how to use these advanced/hidden fields of the GL distribution ?<br>
@@ Line 83: / Line 74: @@
 '''''CarlosRuiz''''': Hi Orlando<br>
 '''''DCS_Ocurieles''''': I have a question, we are working on payroll plugin, how can create a form on IDempiere ?<br>
 '''''CarlosRuiz''''': there is already a form in payroll - HRActionNotice - just follow the same approach<br>
 '''''DCS_Ocurieles''''': yes but only for swing client<br>
@@ Line 95: / Line 84: @@
 '''''CarlosRuiz''''': VHRActionNotice - swing view<br>
 '''''CarlosRuiz''''': HRActionNotice - model<br>
 '''''DCS_Ocurieles''''': carlos in your Adempiere 361 final source is this form ?<br>
 '''''DCS_Ocurieles''''': sorry my iPhone IRC client close my connections<br>
@@ Line 104: / Line 89: @@
 '''''DCS_Ocurieles''''': ok thanks<br>
 '''''CarlosRuiz''''': hengsin - got the fix for the zoom to detail - testing it now<br>
 '''''norbertbede''''': hi<br>
 '''''norbertbede''''': we imported 15 000 products at customer site to idempiere<br>
@@ Line 139: / Line 102: @@
 '''''CarlosRuiz''''': there is a recommendation on forums to create an index to improve performance on product window<br>
 '''''CarlosRuiz''''': also can be even better to disable a virtual column that is on product table<br>
 '''''norbertbede''''': co i dont create issue  on that - altough 15k record not too mach<br>
 '''''norbertbede''''': thanks - could you redirect me to that topic ?<br>
@@ Line 150: / Line 108: @@
 '''''CarlosRuiz''''': https://groups.google.com/d/msg/idempiere/dAfXNkfbhcw/vtVUpmbRhokJ<br>
 '''''norbertbede''''': THANKS<br>
 '''''norbertbede''''': Carlos what you suggest ? we are live at customer, with 1.0c. very slow implementation follow, process by process but realy customer.<br>
 '''''norbertbede''''': i will report each bugs here, we found - or customer - but you suggest to update to nightly build ?<br>
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 '''''norbertbede''''': ok. so go trough patches, faced probllems<br>
 '''''norbertbede''''': thanks well<br>
 '''''norbertbede''''': other topic<br>
 '''''norbertbede''''': we really start testing development on osgi, but my developers has problem with replace an exising feature  - override it trough plugin<br>
@@ Line 179: / Line 127: @@
 '''''norbertbede''''': could anybody recommend the right direction ?<br>
 '''''norbertbede''''': i believe my explanation is clear<br>
 '''''hengsin''''': norbertbede, you can't override classes through plugin<br>