CarlosRuiz: full meeting

2012-09-26T15:34:04Z

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Full Meeting 2012-09-26


'''''CarlosRuiz''''': Good morning 
'''''nmicoud''''': bonjour 
'''''a42niem''''': guten tag 
'''''mzuniga_ergio''''': good morning Carlos 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': as usual - I'll be checking jira tickets and hearing comments 
'''''mzuniga_ergio''''': good morning everybody 
'''''a42niem''''': is there any info available related to 207? 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': there is a sample in GardenWorld 
'''''a42niem''''': ok 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': David is preparing some documentation about - but I think the sample is self-explanatory - although the functionality can be used for many more things beyond Year-End-Closing 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': I'm using that for example for provisioning amounts based on accounting (i.e. provision the amount of vacations based on payroll information) 
'''''a42niem''''': interesting, i'll give it a try 
'''''David_Cai''''': Hello, everyone . 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': Hello David_Cai 
'''''David_Cai''''': Great, a lot of people in China are talking now on QQ about the meeting ! 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': what is QQ? 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': ah - I see - instant messaging 
'''''David_Cai''''': IM in China, the mostly used IM in China, like MSN 
'''''David_Cai''''': We have a group about 200 people interested in Adempiere, having talks almost everyday . 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': wow - that sounds great 
'''''David_Cai''''': chating every now and then . 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': today's meeting here is being very quiet :-) 
'''''David_Cai''''': also we are talking about the introduction and evolution of adempiere. 
'''''David_Cai''''': surely I will keep an eye on this channel and will bring back and forth the topics discussed here and there. 
'''''CityTone''''': Hi all 
'''''David_Cai''''': hi , glad to get you here in . 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': Hi CityTone 
'''''CityTone''''': I come from Hong Kong 
'''''David_Cai''''': from China . 
'''''David_Cai''''': r you in the qq group? 
'''''yourday''''': Canton 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': banym, AYT? 
'''''CityTone''''': David, you asking me? 
'''''banym''''': Hi all 
'''''David_Cai''''': sorry, I have thought that you're the guy I am asking for to come in from . so are you from QQ group ? 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': Hi Dominik 
'''''CityTone''''': Right 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': having problem with JIRA - it doesn't open - I restarted JIRA and now restarted nginx - but still not working 
'''''banym''''': CarlosRuiz: o.k let me check 
'''''nmicoud''''': CarlosRuiz, thanks for your patch on ticket 281, works fine ! Another subject : searches using accent. Suppose I want to create a BPartner called "océan". First, I'm searching for it (don't want to create duplicate) If i write 'océan' i will get no result (but, if i have a look in the window, i will find a 'ocean') So when searching, what you write is only set to upper case. Wouldn't be better to transform é in e, ... 
'''''banym''''': o.k looks like a memory leak 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': nmicoud, yes, I think that happened to me some time ago in 361 
'''''banym''''': CarlosRuiz: jira is back online? 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': do you mean that the upper() function in postgres doesn't convert right é 
'''''David_Cai''''': hi all, how shall i setup the irc server address, I am now on webui . 
'''''CityTone''''': sorry, guy. what is this IRC for? talking anything about iD? 
'''''nmicoud''''': not using postgre 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': yes Dominik - JIRA is back - thanks a lot 
'''''nmicoud''''': only oracle 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': checked oracle and postgres - and both upper are right 
'''''nmicoud''''': On Info... panels, it is java 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': maybe the java toUppercase? 
'''''buildmaster''''': Yippie, build fixed! 
'''''buildmaster''''': Project iDempiere build #388: FIXED in 35 min: http://jenkins.idempiere.com/job/iDempiere/388/ 
'''''buildmaster''''': elainetan: IDEMPIERE-374 Change password must be changed to be a form instead of a process - revise save error message 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': java toUppercase worked fine too 
'''''nmicoud''''': In User window, i got a user with name = 'Céline'. 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': can you try to reproduce the problem at http://demo.globalqss.com/webui/ and http://demo.idempiere.com/webui/ 
'''''nmicoud''''': i will try 
'''''nmicoud''''': tested on demo.globalqss.com 
'''''nmicoud''''': created a user "Céline". 
'''''nmicoud''''': then search for "Celine", doesn't give any results 
'''''nmicoud''''': Could it be related to the login language ? 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': search where? which form? 
'''''nmicoud''''': User window 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': it worked for me 
'''''nmicoud''''': with GardenAdmin 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': ubuntu chrome here - set in spanish 
'''''nmicoud''''': i log in English 
'''''nmicoud''''': se7en, Firefox 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': logged in english worked too 
'''''alex__''''': Hi All 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': Hi alex__ 
'''''banym''''': hi alex__ 
'''''alex__''''': First time to join this IRC 
'''''alex__''''': thanks for bringing the great iDempiere to the world 
'''''fanrong''''': hi 
'''''alex__''''': guys, you are doing a great job~ 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': thanks for the feedback alex__ 
'''''NewMoon''''': Does ID enhance the web UI on ZK comaring with AD? 
'''''alex__''''': I have little concern about the community about adempiere and idempiere 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': nmicoud, tested on firefox (spanish version) - it worked too 
'''''nmicoud''''': how it is possible ? 
'''''nmicoud''''': related to the language of the OS ? 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': your ff is english - could that be? 
'''''nmicoud''''': i don't think, should be French 
'''''NewMoon''''': If I do some changing on the WebUI, then how diffcult to merge it to the main branch code? 
'''''alex__''''': good question, NewMoon 
'''''alex__''''': I also want to know this 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': But I remember that problem has happened to me in my production system - just haven't found how to reproduce it 
'''''nmicoud''''': in webUI ? 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': NewMoon, changes to adempiere or iDempiere? 
'''''NewMoon''''': Idempiere 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': so, you would like to contribute your changes? 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': nmicoud, are you on windows? 
'''''alex__''''': will idempiere change the Swing to RCP? 
'''''nmicoud''''': yes, windows 7 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': ok - will test on win7 
'''''NewMoon''''': Yes, if I can do it. 
'''''nmicoud''''': thanks 
'''''alex__''''': and any plan for GWT? 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': alex__, we don't have plans to migrate swing to rcp - as always any maintainer of extensions is welcome 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': same answer for GWT - no plans at this moment 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': NewMoon, I think the right way is to discuss your enhancements on forums or JIRA tickets - and contribute them via patches 
'''''NewMoon''''': If the GUI enhanced to China style, then more chances will come to us. 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': initially I would recommend via patches - after you get used to the project a bitbucket fork could work better 
'''''NewMoon''''': Thanks Calos 
'''''nmicoud''''': toUpperCase() (used in Find or InfoPanels) method returns toUpperCase(Locale.getDefault()); how is determined this locale ? 
'''''NewMoon''''': OK, I'll study the iD bitbucket 
'''''nmicoud''''': it surely come from that 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': ah - interesting 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': will make a test with different locale 
'''''banym''''': CarlosRuiz: small update on the logo task. as soon as the designer is back from vacation I will present the next preview 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': excellent Dominik, thanks 
'''''NewMoon''''': I will submit one subject on the forums about the WebGUI China style enhancement 
'''''banym''''': btw. will assign the jenkins/jira server more memory at the end of the week. this should speed up the build process. 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': is your bandwidth ok? 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': as jenkins is the main source of downloading idempiere installers 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': if your bandwidht is suffering we can consider deploying the installers to a hosting server 
'''''banym''''': up to know it's o.k for me. for stable releases and virutal machine image we can change the location but no need at the moment. 
'''''alex__''''': thanks Carlous 
'''''alex__''''': chat with your guys next time. keep up the good work. many appreciated 
'''''NewMoon''''': Thanks all , I have to go now, see you next time. 
'''''banym''''': NewMoon: bye 
'''''NewMoon''''': bye 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': nmicoud, win7 firefox failed to get Céline 
'''''nmicoud''''': Great ! 
'''''nmicoud''''': this must be related to java 
'''''nmicoud''''': maybe an already known bug ? 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': ah wait - I'm searching in wrong window .... one minute 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': hmmm - it worked fine - searched Céline on User window 
'''''nmicoud''''': with 'celine' in search field ? 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': no - with Céline 
'''''nmicoud''''': ok, that's normal ; now try to find Céline wrinting Celine 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': ah - that won't work 
'''''nmicoud''''': And it should work 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': no - must not 
'''''nmicoud''''': why ? in google, you can write celine or céline and it gives same results 
'''''nmicoud''''': it could also avoid creating duplicates, no ? 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': I mean - must not work with the actual approach 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': for that probably you need to use some SOUNDEX function 
'''''nmicoud''''': it means that every search should used this kind of function? 
'''''nmicoud''''': so replace toUpperCase by newSoundexFunction ? 
'''''nmicoud''''': i'm having a look at soundex, but maybe no need to go as far. Maybe just converting every exotic character in a upper one (é=>E; ù=>U, ...) and then compare what you wrote with table content 
'''''banym''''': CarlosRuiz: what is your opinion to introduce a bounty board for getting founds for features? 
'''''banym''''': CarlosRuiz: I know this concept from the pfsense project. http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/board,34.0.html 
'''''banym''''': CarlosRuiz: they have strict rules how to declare a feature and make an offer 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': yes Dominik 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': we talked about that at Vancouver and shape up a draft process for that 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': I can send you my notes and we can check against pfsense and try to get something moving ahead 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': nmicoud, the other option we were considering for such searches is to use a mechanism like lucene or postgresql full text search 
'''''nmicoud''''': don't know 
'''''nmicoud''''': anyway that means a huge change ? 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': don't know if oracle or postgres have an option to search ignoring accents 
'''''nmicoud''''': and what about replacing toUppserCase java function with a new one which will ignore accent (and maybe do other thing) 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': this could work 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3723382/case-and-accent-insensitive-like-comparison-oracle-without-altering-session-on 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': upper(convert(col_name, 'US7ASCII')) 
'''''nmicoud''''': but most searches are done in java, not in sql 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': you would need to convert both 
'''''nmicoud''''': sure 
'''''nmicoud''''': Should i open a jira ticket ? 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': sure 
'''''nmicoud''''': ok, i'll do this 
'''''nmicoud''''': if you have time, can you review http://jira.idempiere.com/browse/IDEMPIERE-319, i have attached a patch some time ago 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': ok - will do it 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': thanks nmicoud - patch for 319 is working fine in my tests 
'''''nmicoud''''': great 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': ready - committed https://bitbucket.org/idempiere/idempiere/changeset/21f5527e16ea 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': ok, thanks a lot for the meeting - I need to move to a different task 
'''''nmicoud''''': bye

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