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'''''CarlosRuiz''''': Hello&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''nmicoud''''': Bonjour&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''hengsin''''': hi carlos&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''tbayen''''': Daarestiet&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''tbayen''''': I did my first idempiere osgi installs and wanted to document the prerequisities. Is it a problem to use Postgres 9.x?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''hengsin''''': no&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': demo.idempiere.com is working with postgres 9.0&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''tbayen''''': thanks. Then I will use that from the beginning. BTW: I can confirm that idempiere is working in Eclipse 4.2 Juno. :-)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''hengsin''''': heard lots of complain on 4.2, haven't try though&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''tbayen''''': Did not work much with Eclipse 4.2. Just install and start idempiere (I did all the buckminster and osgi stuff).&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''tbayen''''': CarlosRuiz, TThiessen is back from holiday. He starts with a german reference handbook like he did in the old wiki. He asks whether he may copy your manpages from the old wiki. Or want you to do this to keep your authorship noted?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''a42niem''''': hi all&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''tbayen''''': Moin :-)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': Hi Dirk&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': tbayen, I'll do after the release - the manpages require update to new version, they are obsolete (3.4)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''nmicoud''''': i need to add organization level and monthly restart for sequences ; i explain how i see things here -&amp;gt; http://red1.org/adempiere/viewtopic.php?f=31&amp;amp;t=1649 ; would you be interested in talking about database modification ?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': wondering if instead of adding C_Period_ID, you can expand CalendarYear to be varchar(6) and rename it to CalendarYearMonth&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''nmicoud''''': what would you store in that column ? period name ?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': 201207&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''nmicoud''''': sounds good !&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': there is a process org.adempiere.process.UpdateSequenceNo&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': I think that process is required to be ran each year&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': so, now we would need to run it every month / or create the new record automatically when is not found&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''nmicoud''''': i've planned to add a new process InsertSequenceNo, which will make insert for all sequences&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''nmicoud''''': so, you may run it once for a year ; or when adding/modifying sequences&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': that's what UpdateSequenceNo does&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''nmicoud''''': but quite complicated to do, because we may have sequences for organization level and which restart monthly ;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': so, maybe you can change it to work with monthly sequences&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': and/or make MSequence smarter to create a new record when the year/month/org sequence is not found &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''nmicoud''''': Yep&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''nmicoud''''': actually, i just throw an exception when sequenceNo is not found&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''nmicoud''''': but this behaviour is more logical&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''nmicoud''''': Should i create a jira ticket or i stay in red1's forum ?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': jira is fine as you're planning to add patches for review&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''hengsin''''': please always create jira ticket&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''nmicoud''''': ok, i'll do this and attach patch (after updating with this 'new' CalendarYearMonth column&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': just updated http://demo.idempiere.com&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': zkwebui is throwing an error&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': zkoss.service:714: [Desktop z_lho:/index.zul] client error: Fallo al procesar script adempiere is not defined (ReferenceError)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''hengsin''''': yeah, saw that&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': &amp;quot;Fallo al procesar&amp;quot; is spanish for &amp;quot;Failure to process&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': Nicolas also ran it  :-)    &amp;quot;N'a pas été traité&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''nmicoud''''': yep !&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''nmicoud''''': BigBrother is watching me !&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''hengsin''''': carlos, how you did the update ?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': just installed the linux 64 installer generated by jenkins.idempiere.com&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''hengsin''''': so it is a new install ?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': ah / I haven't applied the migration script ... let me check&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': applied the migration script 848 and restarted, but still same problem&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''red1''''': Hi all… just like to say that i managed to make an EXTJS bundle work within iDempiere&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': sencha?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''red1''''': next trying to call up the Env.ctx&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''red1''''': si&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''red1''''': its just to POC&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': good&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''red1''''': same like wstore..&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''red1''''': i follow that as example&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''red1''''': and then try the Java scripts … they can repeat as given by Sencha tutorials&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''red1''''': so i made a new bundle, ticked it during config in Eclipse&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''red1''''': in the localhost / EXTJS / index.html it does call up the app.js&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''red1''''': and the MVC templates given by Sencha&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''red1''''': i can completely replicate http://docs.sencha.com/ext-js/4-0/#!/guide/application_architecture&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''red1''''': so now i have to make it call Env.ctx thru class calling&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''red1''''': from there try to construct Login and so on&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': great&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''red1''''': i am happy with the power of EXTJS&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''red1''''': of course it works with Mozilla JS&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''red1''''': and HTML5&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''red1''''': i am thinking of taking hengsin advice that another Ajax should not replicate ZK role&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''red1''''': so i be looking at using EXTJS to do Biz Intelligence stuff&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''red1''''': such as charts… that are very animate&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''red1''''': when u mouse over a pie-chart it expands..&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': workflow approval?  taking simple orders?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''red1''''': it be some time away to reach that&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': there are some things that are desired to implement on a phone &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''red1''''':  i am thinking of doing what SAP web objects does&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': but not everything&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''red1''''': animating graphics impressively&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''red1''''': when data changes, the graphs change smoothly&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''red1''''': ZK as it is is already doing its job very well&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''red1''''': to compete with it is futile AFAIS&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''red1''''': and GWT is already pursued by another competitor Compiere&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': hengsin - AYT?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''red1''''': so pursuing EXTJS is a new path that i see value in competitively&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''red1''''': i like the learning curve as i get a chance to really go from scratch&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''red1''''': if i master it for iDempiere, i am a real guru :D&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''red1''''': i like to inform u also that Russia Adempiere is formed and they invited me to oversee its transparency&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''red1''''': also Japan will have me over in September for some events&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''red1''''': i am also contacting people in Turkey&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''red1''''': i like to compare the chickas there&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''hengsin''''': hi carlos&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': probably the problem has relation to this change?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''red1''''': Brazil also has good support from a big University… to help pursue a province govt to use iDempiere&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': https://bitbucket.org/idempiere/idempiere/changeset/384a480919de&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''hengsin''''': red1, if you want to explore new frontier, doing a idempiere touch BI suite will be sweet.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''red1''''': hengsin: u mean for the Phone UI?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''red1''''': do you have a link to sample BI suite that i can take a look at?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''hengsin''''': i means for touch device, tablet and phone&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''red1''''': yes EXTJS with Touch&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''hengsin''''': for bi, it will looks great on a tablet device, ipad , android tablet, ms surface&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': hengsin, on that revision I changed the keyalias on the tomcatTemplate from adempiere to idempiere because the https port was not working&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': but on eclipse it seems that it was required to set the keyalias as adempiere again&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': so - there is something there that is incomplete&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''hengsin''''': carlos, I'm not sure, it works fine from eclipse&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''hengsin''''': i'm downloading the installer from jenkins.idempiere.com to test&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': is like if tomcat is requiring keyalias idempiere for https to work&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': but the rest is expecting keyalias adempiere&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': with eclipse you don't use https / right?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': not sure, but here https://127.0.0.1:8443/webui/  doesn't work&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': http://127.0.0.1:8080/webui/  does&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': but if I change the keyalias on server.xml then it conflicts in other parts&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''red1''''': i understand what Carlos mean.. i got same issues&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''red1''''': installer works but in Eclipse does not for /wstore&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''hengsin''''': red1, check this out - http://www.sencha.com/learn/a-sencha-touch-mvc-application-with-phonegap/&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': will review that later and open a JIRA ticket for https - need to go now&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''hengsin''''': phonegap.com is nice, it allows you to use the native device feature ( phone, tablet ) from your web app&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': c u later guys&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''hengsin''''': https://127.0.0.1:8443/webui/ works for me from eclipse too&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''hengsin''''': bye carlos&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''red1''''': yes… maybe have an app that pulls out the BPartner contacts to call up&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': how is your org.adempiere.tomcat.config/META-INF/tomcat/server.xml ??&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''hengsin''''': ah, my keyalias is adempiere&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''''CIA-93''''': iDempiere: globalqss * fd252d8f0311 r7382 /org.adempiere.base/src/org/compiere/dbPort/Convert.java: IDEMPIERE-323 Migration script log AD_Document_Action_Access - restoring table deleted by mistake&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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