CarlosRuiz: full meeting

2012-02-29T21:34:01Z

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Full Meeting 2012-02-29


'''''CarlosRuiz''''': Hello 
'''''a42niem''''': hi Carlos 
'''''hengsin''''': hi carlos 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': Hi 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': Heng Sin, do you know if zk has some way to implement right-click on android? 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': maybe with a long-finger-press? 
'''''hengsin''''': not sure 
'''''hengsin''''': maybe like you say, long press will work 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': doesn't work - already tested - but wondering if zk has something that we can add in code to manage it - I'll review 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': I'm doing first baby tests on an android tablet 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': and first stopper is the lack of right-click to refresh a list 
'''''hengsin''''': ic, what tablet is that ? 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': Asus EEE Pad Slider 
'''''hengsin''''': chrome will be the future for android 
'''''hengsin''''': maybe click with 2 finger ? 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': iPad simulate it with 2 finger 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': but android doesn't 
'''''hengsin''''': ppp 
'''''hengsin''''': ignore that, that ppp is from my boy 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': introducing him to idempiere world? :-D 
'''''hengsin''''': no, it is bed time for him and he is looking 4 me :) 
'''''hengsin''''': anyway, it is not a good idea to build one UI for desktop and mobile/tablet 
'''''hengsin''''': touch UI needs different layout and interfaction 
'''''hengsin''''': interaction 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': yes - agree - but at least trying to make it usable as a first step 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': what would be proper tool to develop android client? 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': something that generates HTML5? 
'''''hengsin''''': I didn't see many html5 apps on android or ipad, most are native 
'''''hengsin''''': maybe that will change 1 or years from now ... 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': seems like zk implemented something for ipad on 5.0.7 http://books.zkoss.org/wiki/ZK_Developer%27s_Reference/UI_Patterns/Tooltips,_Context_Menus_and_Popups#Limitation_of_iOS 
'''''hengsin''''': ic then probably the zk6 port will work 
'''''hengsin''''': let me commit my current wip, it is basically up and running just fine. 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': great 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': ce or ee? any feature lost? 
'''''hengsin''''': ce 
'''''hengsin''''': there are some feature lost that needs to be reimplemented 
'''''hengsin''''': and background update have gone slower due to comet is only available in EE 
'''''hengsin''''': but it is otherwise feel smoother, faster. 
'''''hengsin''''': and I have not really explore integrating any new zk5/6 features yet so it should be a mixed thing at the end 
'''''hengsin''''': gain some and loss some :) 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': yes - I think is a necessary step 
'''''hengsin''''': talking about android tablet, do note that the current 4.0 stock browser support for html5 is not so great but the android chrome beta offer very good html5 support 
'''''hengsin''''': chrome for android should become the stock browser in next release ( 4.1 or 5.0 ) 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': my nexus phone still has not upgraded to ICS - so chrome still not available for me :-( 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': thinking on rooting it 
'''''hengsin''''': nexus s ? 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': yep 
'''''hengsin''''': I think the last rollout have some issue and they have suspended it. 
'''''hengsin''''': I'm using HTC DHD, also no 4.0 update yet 
'''''hengsin''''': no tablet yet but my the other half would probably buy an ipad instead. 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': on ipad adempiere zkwebui is fully working 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': not the best interface as you said - but at least it can be fully used 
'''''hengsin''''': you would have to do a lot of 2 finger scrolling :) 
'''''hengsin''''': we should really build a separate client ( zk or otherwise ) for tablet. 
'''''hengsin''''': android/ios native client that talk to adempiere server using web service is another interesting stuff ... 
'''''hengsin''''': back to idempiere, I'm thinking of setting some date for it and putting some sort of simple next release road map at jira 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': for 1.0 release? 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': we can define what jira tickets must be included on 1.0 and set the target 
'''''hengsin''''': yes, maybe something 1st may release, 2nd of april for trunk freeze 
'''''hengsin''''': yeah, that's what I mean 
'''''hengsin''''': I guess we can have 1.0 and 1.1 at jira, the zk6 port will be for 1.1 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': but we can make a preview before - a 0.0 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': the only necessary step would be to run again the UU columns generator 
'''''hengsin''''': that can happen sometime in march but that date is not crucial 
'''''hengsin''''': wdyt, feature freeze on 2nd april so that we got a month to do just bug fixing for 1/5 release ? 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': mayday again :-) 
'''''hengsin''''': well, just a coincidence 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': for me it sounds ok 
'''''hengsin''''': I'm on vacation from 4/5 to 12/5 so it is either 1/5 or sometime in june 
'''''hengsin''''': alright, lets stick to that. 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': mayday sounds fine - and it has some deja vu :-D 
'''''hengsin''''': steven is asking again on integrating their modules to idempiere, how do you think we should approach that ? 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': can we try to set a chat with Steven and Paul to check that? 
'''''hengsin''''': ok, I can try to check with Steven

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