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'''''CarlosRuiz''''': Good morning 
'''''egonzalez_ergio''''': Good morning 
'''''mzuniga_ergio''''': Goog Morning Carlos 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': how are things going in Argentina? 
'''''a42niem''''': good morning Carlos 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': hi Dirk 
'''''mzuniga_ergio''''': Everything Ok, on final steps to deploy Localizacion Argentina 
'''''mzuniga_ergio''''': next week will be the first release of LAR 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': great 
'''''mzuniga_ergio''''': how are thins going in Colombia? is red1 still there? 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': yes - he's at Medellín today - at home of Javier Villamizar 
'''''mzuniga_ergio''''': great, he is always in a neverending tour! 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': :-) yes 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': I have no specific agenda for today's meeting - so if you have any issue (technical or functional) you want to discuss - is open - otherwise I'll start working on my pendings - setting up the central ID server, etc 
'''''a42niem''''': i am still struggling with buckminster headless 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': ah, I haven't tried that - but, is not the same that is working on jenkins? 
'''''a42niem''''': should be, so whom could i ask then about that? 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': ok, if you tell me what steps have you done - I'll try to replicate - and then help you to check the issues 
'''''a42niem''''': i have downloaded director_latest from eclipse 
'''''a42niem''''': i used director to download buckminster headless from 3.6 repository 
'''''a42niem''''': then i used buckminster to install additional features like core and pde 
'''''collazosc''''': do you have any clue of how to run idempiere from installers (standalone) I worked even with osgi commands but no success 
'''''a42niem''''': then i saved the target definition from the idempiere project within eclipse by "sharing" it 
'''''a42niem''''': i used buckminster to import this target definition 
'''''a42niem''''': and then when i import org.adempiere.sdk-feature/adempiere.cquery i get several errors 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': ok will try that 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': collazosc, latest installers are failing 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': I documented here 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': http://www.globalqss.com/wiki/index.php/IDempiere/Installing_from_Installers 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': still one building bug pending to solve 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': issue is http://jira.idempiere.com/browse/IDEMPIERE-114 
'''''collazosc''''': yes this is were I stopped. I am trying this http://njbartlett.name/2011/02/09/uses-constraints.html. Maybe the problem could be there 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': good source - will document on the ticket 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': for future reference 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': a42niem, I'm in step "director -r ..." 
'''''a42niem''''': ok 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': but I'm using eclipse 3.7 
'''''a42niem''''': i am on 3.6.2 
'''''a42niem''''': maybe that makes a difference in maturity 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': which is the buckminster command to install core and pde? 
'''''a42niem''''': ./buckminster install http://download.eclipse.org/tools/buckminster/headless-3.6/ org.eclipse.buckminster.core.headless.feature 
'''''a42niem''''': and also org.eclipse.buckminster.pde.headless.feature and org.eclipse.buckminster.maven.headless.feature 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': I see and listsite shows the available features 
'''''a42niem''''': yes 
'''''a42niem''''': then i did 
'''''a42niem''''': ./buckminster importtargetdefinition -A '/opt/workspace/idempiere/org.adempiere.target.platform-feature/adempiere.target' 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': yep - from that is the same jenkins config I guess 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': did you install maven feature? 
'''''a42niem''''': calling ./buckminster import '/opt/workspace/idempiere/org.adempiere.sdk-feature/adempiere.cquery' then gives me the errors 
'''''a42niem''''': yes i did 
'''''a42niem''''': buckminster lsprefs shows several unset prefs 
'''''a42niem''''': maybe it is somewhere in them 
'''''a42niem''''': error is for example "No suitable provider for component org.adempiere.sdk:eclipse.feature was found in resourceMap file:/opt/workspace/idempiere/org.adempiere.sdk-feature/adempiere.rmap" 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': still installing pde 
'''''a42niem''''': ok 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': now maven 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': now on importtargetdefinition 
'''''a42niem''''': finishes without any output here 
'''''collazosc''''': carlosRuiz. I know you know OpenERP. I have some colleagues here pushing this against my adempiere project. What do you think is the big O point of adempiere compared to OpenERP? 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': a42niem, there is no adempiere.target 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': on jenkins the importtargetdefinition is different 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': importtargetdefinition -A '${WORKSPACE}/org.adempiere.sdk-feature/build-target-platform.target' 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': I don't know too much about OpenERP 
'''''collazosc''''': ok thanks 
'''''a42niem''''': you have to create the target definition as a file first 
'''''a42niem''''': in eclipse window > preferences > plugin-developemnt > target definition > share 
'''''a42niem''''': i called mine adempiere.target 
'''''a42niem''''': looks like for jenkins it was called build-target-platform.target 
'''''a42niem''''': once it has been shared i can not change the file name or directory 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': ah, I see 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': I think that's not required 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': this seems to do the same 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': buckminster importtargetdefinition -A '/home/carlos/hgAdempiere/localosgi/org.adempiere.sdk-feature/build-target-platform.target' 
'''''a42niem''''': ok 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': buckminster import '/home/carlos/hgAdempiere/localosgi/org.adempiere.sdk-feature/adempiere.cquery' 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': is throwing me a different error 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': org.xml.sax.SAXParseException: Content is not allowed in prolog.: 
'''''a42niem''''': hm 
'''''a42niem''''': too bad 
'''''a42niem''''': what is different on jenkins then? 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': will try with 3.6 
'''''collazosc''''': I read on kenail hensing that idempiere does not work yet in 3.7 that's why I use 3.6 
'''''collazosc''''': sorry, kenai 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': in eclipse 3.7 is working fine 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': but testing to see if buckminster headless is not 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': :-( same error with 3.76 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': 3.6 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': my fault 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': I had a wrong adempiere.cquery file - not sure how it was overwritten with another wrong file 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': ERROR [0001] : No suitable provider for component org.adempiere.sdk:eclipse.feature was found in resourceMap file:/home/carlos/hgAdempiere/localosgi/org.adempiere.sdk-feature/adempiere.rmap 
'''''a42niem''''': ok, so it is at least repeatable 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': researching now 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': comparing with jenkins that doesn't show such error 
'''''a42niem''''': good 
'''''red1''''': hola CarlosRuiz and halo a42niem and hello every1 else 
'''''mzuniga_ergio''''': Hola Red1 
'''''egonzalez_ergio''''': Hola Red1 
'''''a42niem''''': moin red1 :) 
'''''red1''''': ah.. i forgot it is our weekly dictator's meeting! :D 
'''''collazosc''''': hello there 
'''''egonzalez_ergio''''': :-P 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': hi red1 
'''''mzuniga_ergio''''': dark's side meeting 
'''''red1''''': i saw a42niem has his own blog on the install… cool 
'''''a42niem''''': thanks 
'''''a42niem''''': mostly in german 
'''''red1''''': I am learning Spanish 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': a42niem, solved 
'''''a42niem''''': you wizzard, how? 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': buckminster command works by default with a workspace on $HOME/workspace 
'''''a42niem''''': argh 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': you must pass as parameter 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': the workspace folder 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': as this 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': buckminster -data /home/carlos/hgAdempiere/testheadless importtargetdefinition -A '/home/carlos/hgAdempiere/testheadless/org.adempiere.sdk-feature/build-target-platform.target' 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': -data parameter to set the workspace folder 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': not sure if it worked as showed other errors - but at least now downloaded lots of things .... checking 
'''''a42niem''''': i try, bbl 
'''''red1''''': i remember solving that in OSGI Hengsin 
'''''collazosc''''': carlosRuiz: Did you applied the same procedure stated in hensing's forum to make idempiere run in eclipse 3.7? 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': I documented my steps here 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': http://www.globalqss.com/wiki/index.php/IDempiere 
'''''collazosc''''': thanks I am still confused with the documentation sources. 
'''''collazosc''''': and what it works and what it does'nt 
'''''red1''''': collazosc: Carlos is the latest attempt which he wrote.. mine was 1 year ago.. it worked during my time.. and a review some time ago it still works 
'''''red1''''': i will review it again soon 
'''''red1''''': some weeks ago another user also used my wiki and it worked too... 
'''''red1''''': only problem he had was the lazy bundles has to be manually started from the OSGi console 
'''''red1''''': which i already noted anyway in my wiki page 
'''''collazosc''''': yes I played (as you showed me) with starting osgi modules but I stopped with a constraint violation (I found the article which I pinpointed before today). now I am trying to test it 
'''''red1''''': constraint is due to the dependent bundle not started? 
'''''collazosc''''': yes I could not start activemq, carlos ruiz opened a jira for this 
'''''red1''''': are u talking about the OB POS? 
'''''red1''''': or the OSGi has activemq also included? 
'''''collazosc''''': osgi has activemq included. Jira referenced by carlos is http://jira.idempiere.com/browse/IDEMPIERE-114 
'''''red1''''': i see 
'''''collazosc''''': as I wrote before I found this clue http://njbartlett.name/2011/02/09/uses-constraints.html 
'''''red1''''': perhaps u can change the requirement in the manifest file 
'''''red1''''': if u do not need activemq 
'''''red1''''': or change it to the version that is presently there 
'''''red1''''': AFAIK this is how OSGi work.. it puts an added abstraction to the jar path 
'''''red1''''': so that it can hide those not needed from other bundles 
'''''red1''''': for loose coupling concpt 
'''''red1''''': concept 
'''''collazosc''''': I will try also this. I will let you know if I get somewhere. 
'''''red1''''': why it says constraint to that activemq 5.3.0 is (i suspect) directly defined in the manifest.MF 
'''''red1''''': of the calling bundle that hits this error 
'''''red1''''': it says which other jar or bundle to point to so that later it passes this jar to the lower classes to import from 
'''''red1''''': in this way the developer controls the Jar Path hell 
'''''collazosc''''': yes it's chain since actually the module kahadb needs activeqm which in turn is needed by adempiere.base 
'''''red1''''': the activemq at present from Trifon/Carlos time was 5.0.0 
'''''red1''''': when i did OB POS, i advised upgrade to 5..5.0 
'''''red1''''': activemq-core-5.5.0 
'''''red1''''': to use the stomp protocol which is easier 
'''''red1''''': or latest 
'''''red1''''': but i am saying if u just want to make your OSGi works first.. you can shut up those constraints by trying to remove them 
'''''red1''''': usually doing these things teach us more about hacking the OSGi 
'''''collazosc''''': yes I think that before upgrading to new version we need to make current work. 
'''''red1''''': si… thats what i mean.. just to make it work, we do not need it perhaps.. we can turn it off via the MF file to remove such a constraint 
'''''red1''''': anyway gtg.. Javier here is done at his client... 
'''''red1''''': hasta la vista baby 
'''''collazosc''''': ok time to have lunch.Thanks for your advice and listen some of my naive questions. See you next wednesday.

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